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The problem with including schools like those you listed is that a large number of their graduates matriculate at universities outside the United States. As a result, I feel it would be doing them a disservice to include them here since their results would be diluted by their graduates who choose not to attend an American university.
Good point. Thank you anyways.
I love your creation and continued effort in updating the output.
I concur with Karen Lee that it would be interesting/informative to mix in non-US based prep schools that run programs targeting US college preparation. After considering your reply, I dug up below two school’s data that would not pose too much of bias/unfairness.
1. Korean Minjok Leadership Academy runs “International” program and breaks down matriculation based on that particular program’s results. Some non-US colleges are included but overall, the data seems useful as we do not assume that US based prep schools only send to US colleges either.
http://english.minjok.hs.kr/
I can’t seem to get the specific link but if you click on “KMLA facts” then open up “International Program Graduates at Universities Abroad,” you can the data from 1999 through 2008.
2. Li Po Chun United World College provides matriculation break down by country. Looking at the represented US and non-US colleges, using only US college data would not bias the caliber of schools too much nor corrupt the integrity of your data comparison basis.
http://www.lpcuwc.edu.hk/uploads/2008/11/University-Entered-1994-2010.pdf
Please consider adding at least these two in your Boarding School and overall ranking.
schools’ – how embarassing! Do I have any other typos?
I’ll consider adding them. I do want data through 2010, though, to add any new schools now.
There might be a selection bias in your point #2 above. It might be that students are only willing to matriculate at US schools if they can do so at a prestigious university.
One general problem in adding new schools is that I am doing this as a “labor of love”. I have a full-time job and a family. There’s only limited time in a day for me to devote to the maintenance of this website.
Thank you again for your time!!
KMLA’s domestic site (http://www.minjok.hs.kr/) contains the current data through 2010. Well, with some creative clicking, I got to the correct link. As the main page opens, you’ll see “quick link” on the right corner. The second tap down (with a pic of building with flag on top) contains matriculation data. The second tap right on the blue sauage looking link represents International Program’s data. Below the total number, there is a Korean word and you need to click on this to get the full data breakdown in English. =]
As for LPC, the schools didn’t seem to represent only “prestigious” ones. Then again, I’d defer to your judgement.
Copying and pasting didn’t work very well but the last number on the row is the total number for each college. The data is from 1998 through 2010.
1998년 1999년 2000년 2001년 2002년 2003년 2004년 2005년 2006년 2007년 2008년 2009년 2010년 계
Amherst College 1 1 1 2 1 6
Bowdoin College 1 1 1 3
Brown U. 1 5 2 2 2 3 15
California Institute of Technology 2 2 4 1 2 11
Carleton College 1 1 2
Carnegie Mellon U. 1 1 3 2 3 1 1 12
Claremont Mckenna College 1 1
Columbia U. 1 1 1 1 2 6
Cooper Union 1 1 2
Cornell U. 1 1 1 1 4 4 6 6 7 5 36
Dartmouth College 1 1 1 1 2 2 8
Duke U. 1 1 3 1 4 4 3 5 5 27
Emory U. 1 1 1 2 3 8
Georgetown U. 1 1 1 1 4
Georgia Institute of Technology 1 1 2
Grinnell College 2 2 4
Hamilton College 1 1
Harvard U. 1 2 2 2 1 8
Haverford College 1 1
Hong Kong U. of Science and Technology 1 1 2
Imperial College 1 1
Johns Hopkins U. 2 1 2 1 6
Kobe U. 1 1
Kyoto U. 1 1 2
London School of Economics 1 1 2
Macalester College 1 1
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 11
McGill U. 1 1 2
Middlebury College 1 1
National U. of Singapore 1 1
New York U. 1 1 2 4 4 12
Northwestern U. 1 5 7 2 3 18
Oberlin 2 2
Olin College 1 1 2
Oxford U. 1 1 1 1 2 6
Peking U. 1 1 2
Penn State U. 1 1
Princeton U. 1 1 3 1 4 1 2 1 14
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 1 1
Rhode Island School of Design 1 1
Rice U. 2 2 5 2 11
School of Art Institute of Chicago 1 1
Stanford U. 1 2 2 1 1 6 4 1 3 21
Swarthmore College 1 1 1 1 3 7
Tokyo U. of Foreign Studies 1 1
Toronto U. 1 2 3
Tufts U. 1 1
Tulane U. 1 1
U. of Auckland 1 1
U. of British Columbia 1 1 2
U. of California at Berkeley 3 2 3 7 2 6 23
U. of California at Los Angeles 1 1 2
U. of California at San Diego 1 1
U. of Cambridge 1 1 2
U. of Chicago 1 2 1 2 2 3 1 5 17
U. of Hong Kong 2 1 3 6
U. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 1 4 5 1 2 13
U. of Michigan 2 2 1 5
U. of North Carolina 1 1
U. of Notre Dame 1 1 1 1 4 8
U. of Pennsylvania 1 1 1 3 4 7 3 5 25
U. of Pittsburgh 1 1
U. of Tokyo 1 1
U. of Tsukuba 1 1 2
U. of Virginia 1 2 1 3 7
U. of Wisconsin Madison 1 1
University of Southern California 1 1
Vanderbilt U. 1 1
Vassar College 1 1 1 3
Waseda U. 2 2 4
Washington U. in St. Louis 1 2 4 5 12
Wellesley College 2 1 3
Wesleyan U. 1 1 2
Williams College 1 2 1 2 2 8
Yale U. 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 9
국외계 2 3 8 14 19 18 28 46 83 79 65 88 453
Interesting listing of boarding schools; however, is there a particular reason that my school, Western Reserve Academy (WRA), is not included? Is there information that you needed from us in order to consider WRA for your database? Just curious.
ETThomas
Director of College Counseling
Western Reserve Academy
thomase@wra.net
Eugene,
Yes, there is information that you could provide that would allow me to post WRA’s statistics. Jason posted a comment a bit above about WRA to which I responded. I had previously been unaware of the school and at the time of his comment only the 2009 matriculation list was posted. At this point, I only want to add new schools that have current information through 2010. I said I would add it when I had 2010 data also. Since my preference is to have 3 to 5 years of data for a school in order to smooth out exceptionally good or bad years, you could send me WRA’s information for 2006-2010. I would simply need a list of any school at which at least one student has matriculated as well as the count per school. That information would need to cover all of WRA’s graduates during that period. If you send me that information via the contact info on this site, I will be glad to add WRA’s statistics to the site as soon as I can.
Thanks for your interest!
Trinity, Dalton, Horace Mann and Collegiate 2010 5-year placement results (i.e., 2006-2010) are all out in the books/materials that were sent to applicants. It would be great if you could update these (all in the top 12 nationwide) when you get a chance. Thanks
I don’t have a scanner but perhaps somebody with one could be kind enough to scan and send so they could be added.
Thanks Iggbert. I already have parsed Dalton’s from their website and will be adding as soon as time allows. I’m sure Collegiate will post theirs soon. Trinity seems to lag posting by a significant amount of time, so if someone would send me those, I would appreciate that. Horace Mann only seems to post sketchy (and not adequate for my purposes) results on their website. So, if someone could send those to me, I’d appreciate that also.
Thank you for updating, esp. the top 15 nationwide. Thanks for updating Dalton. I apologize for not having a scanner. Trinity’s complete 2006-2010 matriculation numbers are on page 21 of one of the two brochures they sent to applicants a few weeks ago (the book with details and not just pics). I searched Horace Mann’s 4 short booklets and website and couldn’t find a detailed list. Perhaps someone could kindly scan and e-mail to StatMaster the updated Trinity numbers. Thanks.
For Trinity School in NYC: Actually, I am able to send you the weblink of the information book Trinity sent to applicants with the updated 5-year matriculation data. The full list & numbers are on page 21 of the book. Thanks again for updating. Here’s the link: http://www.trinityschoolnyc.org/ftpimages/390/misc/misc_75991.pdf
L’villegrad, thank you!
Here are Hockady’s matriculation lists:
http://www.hockaday.org/ftpimages/90/download/2009%20Matriculation%20052609.pdf 2009
https://www.hockaday.org/ftpimages/90/download/Matriculation%20List%202010-2011.pdf 2010
Thanks!
Thanks a lot Yvonne! Hockaday is one of those schools for which I’ve been unsuccessfully trying to obtain data for awhile now. It will be added as soon as time allows.
Dalton 2006-2010. I think you don’t have the accurate or full list. For 2006-10, there were 169/547 ivies, or 30.9% (you have 31.5%) and 64/547 HYPMS, or 11.7% (you have 12.0%). Your numbers are higher for both and incorrect according to the updated 2006-10 list on their website. Here’s the link: http://www.dalton.org/program/high/counseling.asp. Thanks for checking and fixing.
Thanks Iggbert! It was an easy fix. Dalton provides exact numbers for all schools with 2 or more matriculants and also a total number of graduates over the 5-year span. I had used 537 instead of 547 for the total. Everything has been fixed.
Just so you know, in such situations where I don’t have complete information, I do make slight adjustments for schools not listed. In the case of Dalton, I put 0.25 for each relevant school that is not already listed as having at least 2 matriculants. For HYPMS, that meant adding 0.25 for MIT. That improved Dalton’s HYPMS statistic from 11.700% to 11.746%, both of which round to 11.7%.
My wife has received the latest (5-year) 2006-10 matriculation data for Horace Mann and ECFS (I think I left you the link for Trinity’s updated stats yesterday). Is there a way to send attachments so I can forward all 3 to you?
If attachments don’t work, I could send via fax if thats an option.
Iggbert:
I actually already have the ECFS 2006-2010 based on combining the individual years, but if you send their version that would be good confirmation that I did it right. Although I have various safeguards built in to process data as efficiently as possible, I can certainly make occasional mistakes as you saw with Dalton. I’ve already downloaded Trinity’s, so I don’t need that. It would be great to receive HM’s.
Just click on the “Contact Us” link and you’ll see an email address. You can attach the information as a pdf. It would be very helpful if it’s the kind of pdf that allows me to copy/paste off of it.
Thanks you for all your interest and help!
Do you have 2006-10 data for Horace Mann, Riverdale, Ethical Culture/Fieldston, and Collegiate? I noticed that most of the other top schools had been updated through 2010. If you are missing any data from these schools, could you kindly let us know so someone can try to e-mail the updated statistics to you if they have them? Thank you.
I noticed that Convent of the Sacred Heart (CSH) has posted its updated, 4-year matriculation stats through 2010 on its website. As you are in the process of updating NYC schools, I wonder if you could add CSH to your to do list. Here’s the link: http://www.cshnyc.org/academics/college_counseling/index.aspx
Just saw Collegiate has finally posted its updated matriculation numbers (2006-10): http://www.collegiateschool.org/podium/default.aspx?t=114062
Deborah & Chad:
Thanks for your interest in our website!
I hadn’t yet realized that CSH and Collegiate had posted updated information (I certainly don’t check websites every day), so I will now use update using that information.
Of the schools that Deborah listed, the only school for which I now do not have updated information is Riverdale. I’m sure they’ll post it soon enough. As to the others, updating for their recent information is on my “to do” list, but I just haven’t found the time yet. It will get done, however.
Was looking through all the girls schools and saw NBS (Nightingale-Bamford) had posted 2006-10 numbers as well. Here’s the link: http://www.nightingale.org/podium/default.aspx?t=21385
Links for Boarding School latest matriculation stats.
Exeter not yet updated on web for 2010 – 2010 results reported in Exonian in June (don’t have a copy)
Andover (2004-2010) http://www.andover.edu/Academics/CollegeCounseling/Pages/SchoolProfileCollegeMatriculations.aspx
St. Paul’s (2007-2010) http://www.sps.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=6543
Groton (2006-2010) http://www.groton.org/contentPage.aspx?pageId=45141§ionId=401
Lawrenceville not yet updated on web for 2010
Deerfield (2010 only) http://www.deerfield.edu/academics/749/2010_College_Matriculations
Milton (2008-2010) http://www.milton.edu/academics/Matriculation.cfm
Hotchkiss (2007-2010) http://www.hotchkiss.org/academics/college-advising/matriculation-list/index.aspx
Links for Boarding School latest matriculation stats.
Exeter not yet updated on web for 2010 – 2010 results reported in Exonian in June (don’t have a copy)
Andover (2004-2010) http://www.andover.edu/Academics/CollegeCounseling/Pages/SchoolProfileCollegeMatriculations.aspx
St. Paul’s (2007-2010) http://www.sps.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=6543
Groton (2006-2010) http://www.groton.org/contentPage.aspx?pageId=45141§ionId=401
Lawrenceville not yet updated on web for 2010
Deerfield (2010 only) http://www.deerfield.edu/academics/749/2010_College_Matriculations
Milton (2008-2010) http://www.milton.edu/academics/Matriculation.cfm
Hotchkiss (2007-2010) http://www.hotchkiss.org/academics/college-advising/matriculation-list/index.aspx
Thanks for all the links. I’ll get to boarding schools also, but it’s going to take a bit of time. It’s a bit time consuming to update each school. I’ve gotten much quicker than I was at the beginning, but the time adds up when you consider how many schools are involved here.
So many people appreciate what you are doing, and not to add any pressure (or rush you in any way), but just wondered if there was a rough timetable for updating some of the outstanding NYC schools discussed above (Horace Mann, ECFS, Riverdale, Collegiate, Nightingale, & CSH) to reflect the latest (2010) statistics? Thanks again for all your hard work!
Are you missing data for any of these schools? If you don’t have Riverdale, we could ask at the end of our tour next week.
I would echo the last comments. Very helpful site – especially for those of us in the midst of applying now and beginning to go through tours, interviews, etc.
I’m obsessed with girl schools lol.
Miss Porter’s
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=95644487281 2009
http://www.porters.org/podium/default.aspx?t=204&nid=492901 2010
Just took a quick look at Hockaday’s stats (2010). They have an amazing 10.2% HYPSM, a 19.4% Ivy and a 46.9% Top Schools matriculation.
See if it matches yours, L’villegrad. (hate to sound so pushy)
Yvonne:
Thanks for your interest. The Miss Porter’s information is new to me since they don’t post actual matriculation information on their website. It looks genuine, so I’ll save it, but I’m only adding new schools now when I have 2010 data (hopefully in addition to other years).
I come up with different statistics than you do for Hockaday. For 2010 alone, I see 7 HYPMS matriculants (H-1, Y-1, P-3, S-2) out of 123 for a HYPMS percentage of 5.7%. For Ivy, I see 8 more (Penn-3, Corn-2, B-3) in addition to the 5 already in HYP for a total of 13. that makes an Ivy percentage of 10.6%. Note that the combined 2009-10 results have been posted on the day schools outside NYC page.
Sorry, what I meant was 2009. Hope it matches yours. And thanks again!!!!
I’m more familiar with boarding schools, so I assumed you would put Hockaday in the BS category.
Anyways, good stuff good work!!!
As for MPS, the Facebook page indicates that there are 80 students in Class of 09 and the school page says there are (around) 84 graduates in 2010. Maybe they are accurate?
One more question – the US News Rankings change slightly each year. How will it affect the stats?
I’m afraid that I’m not seeing quite as many Ivy matriculants from the Class of 2009 as you are. I see 15 (Corn-5, D-3, H-3,P-1,Penn-1,Y-2).You seem to be counting 19. Am I missing some?
With less than 10% boarding students, I consider Hockaday to be essentially a day school.
As to the US News Rankings, take a look at my “Random Musings” page where I discuss this issue.
Yes, you are right (to all the questions and concerns).
I included MIT and Stanford when counting Ivy. And I apologize for not checking the website thoroughly before asking questions.
Feeling so stupid now!!! I’m sorry. You’re obviously more experienced than I am. THANK YOU!
Thought you might want this for Brunswick:
College Matriculation List for 2010
Class of 2010 Matriculation
Amherst 1 Harvard 2 University ofMichigan 2
Bates 1 Hobart & William Smith 1 University of Montana 1
Boston College 1 Kenyon 1 Univ. of NC, Chapel Hill 1
Bowdoin 2 Loyola, Maryland 1 U of Pennsylvania 1
Brown 2 McGillUniversity 1 U of Richmond 2
Bucknell 3 Middlebury 2 U of Virginia 1
ColbyCollege 1 Peabody Institute 1 Vanderbilt 2
Colorado College 1 Reed College 1 Villanova 1
Columbia 1 RPI 2 Wake Forest 4
Cooper Union 1 Southern Methodist 1 Washington & Lee 2
CornellUniversity 2 St. Lawrence 1 Washington U. in St. Louis 1
Dartmouth 3 Stanford 2 Wesleyan 3
Davidson 2 SUNY Univ., Albany 1 Yale 4
Duke 6 SUNY Binghamton 1
George Washington 1 Trinity College 1
Georgetown 5 Tufts University 1
Gettysburg 2 University of Miami 1
Composite of the Classes of 2006 through of 2010 [5 years]
Amherst 7 Hamilton 3 U of Pennsylvania 9
Boston College 3 Harvard 8 U of Richmond 5
Brown 9 Hobart & William Smith 6 U of Southern CA 3
Bucknell 12 Middlebury 14 U of Vermont 6
Colby 4 Princeton 15 U of Virginia 6
Colgate 5 St. Lawrence 5 Vanderbilt 5
Columbia 6 Stanford 10 Villanova 3
Cornell 9 Trinity 15 Wake Forest 9
Dartmouth 11 Tufts 3 Washington & Lee 3
Davidson 8 Union 3 Washington U. in St. Louis 6
Denison 8 U of CA, Berkeley 3 Wesleyan 3
Duke 14 U of Colorado 6 Williams 4
Georgetown 21 U of Michigan 6 Yale 13
Gettysburg 3 U of Notre Dame 6
1 or 2 at each of the following:
Babson, Bates, Boston University, Bowdoin, CarnegieMellon, Catholic University, Claremont McKenna, College of the Holy Cross, College of William & Mary, College of Wooster, Colorado College, CooperUnion,Dickinson, Elon, Emory, Franklin & Marshall, George Washington, Hartwick, Hofstra, Ithaca, Juniata, Kenyon, Loyola, Miami University, McGill, Northeastern, Northwestern, NYU, Peabody Institute, Reed, Roanoke, Rollins, RPI, Rutgers, Sewanee, Skidmore, Southern Methodist University, Stevens Institute of Technology, St.Michael’s, SUNYAlbany, SUNYBinghamton, Syracuse, University of Denver, University of Montana, University of Navarra (Spain), University of NC (Chapel Hill), University of Rochester, University of St. Andrews, Ursinus, US Coast Guard Academy, US Naval Academy, Vassar, West Point Military Academy, WPI
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Thanks for this information. I’ll use it when I get to updating Brunswick (which will happen, just not sure when).
please take a look at Brunswick school matriculation>>>updated to 2010
who are you?
Finally, The Winsor School in Boston, MA updated its college matriculation data from 2006 – 2010 on the website: http://www.winsor.edu/academics/college-counseling-and-placement/index.aspx
I’ll certainly update that school as time allows.
I am wondering about Commonwealth in Boston and Harker in Silicon Valley.
Commonwealth is already on the “day school outside NYC” page and I have been unsuccessful in finding appropriate data to analyze for Harker.
The Hill School? Surprised that’s not included in this grouping….
Show me the data and I’ll include The Hill. But, they have some comments on their website indicating why they would be philosophically opposed to the analysis shown here.
Are you still planning to update Riverdale (RCS) when you get a chance? I hope the 2006-2010 figures I sent in early Oct. are readable. Thanks
I was hoping the school would post stats since your info was readable, but not copiable into a spreadsheet. But since you asked, I’ve now updated Riverdale.
Your site is interesting, but I question why you weight the different Ivy schools and top LACs and other non-Ivy schools. They are all difficult to be admitted to, and in some cases, students are choosing some of the schools you weigh lower over some you weight higher. For isntance, why would Brown be weighted lower than Duke, Penn, Dartmouth, Columbia, etc or any of the LACs, when they easily beat those schools in matriculation of studetns who are cross admitted to brown and many of those schools??. The US News rankings seem to be a very subjective ranking anyway. Why not weight all the elite colleges and universities the same–or at least consider their official acceptance rates….??
I needed to use source of rankings for any methodology to make any sense. I had no desire to devise my own ranking system for the colleges as that would have required a significant amount of effort and who knows if I would have come up with a better system. The US New rankings are a well-known ranking system which was readily available to me. Is it perfect? Of course not. But at least it provides some level of objectivity. I then scaled down ratings points based on its rankings. You seem to be applying a ranking system based on your intuition that Brown, for example, deserves to be ranked as highly as Penn, for example. I have no clear sense of whether you are right or wrong, but the US News Rankings have made that determination for me when I decided to use them.
I hope you gather some useful information from this site despite your difficulty with some of the methodology.
Thanks for your response. You can now update your Greenwich Academy analysis to include 2010 matriculations.
Various up-to-date matriculation data from Mid-Atlantic Schools is below. Please keep up the great work.
Thomas Jefferson Magnet School (VA): http://publications.tjhsst.edu/tjtoday/2000/header9.html (click the “Senior” button for each year 2007 through 2010 for a detailed college matriculation list for each class — great data)
St. Anselm’s Abbey (DC): http://www.saintanselms.org/about_us/publications/index.aspx (each Annual Report has a detailed list of college choices for each senior — great data)
Washington Int’l School (DC): http://www.wis.edu/data/files/pages/2010-2011%2520Profile%2520Final%2520Online.pdf (provides data for 2007-10)
Bullis School (DC): http://www.bullis.org/college-counseling/colleges-attended-list/index.aspx (data for 2006-10)
Holton-Arms (MD): http://www.holton-arms.edu/uploaded/documents/college_counseling/HoltonMatriculation2009.pdf (2009), http://www.holton-arms.edu/uploaded/documents/US/Scribbler/June9_2010_Scribbler.pdf (2010),
Landon (MD): http://www.landon.net/uploaded/documents/academics/College_Counseling/matriculation_2010_080410.pdf (2010)
Potomac School (VA): http://www.potomacschool.org/campus-life/college-counseling/college-matriculation/index.aspx (2006-2010)
Thanks, SAM2. Will attempt to get to these as time allows. Unfortunately, my schedule has been fairly hectic lately and updating has gone slower than I would have liked.
How do you handle scholarships such as Morehead Scholars at UNC Chapel Hill? Groton typically sends one or two students yearly who chose that program over HYPMS or other top schools. Since Chapel Hill is not in the top 25 university list, then certain small schools such as Groton might have their “top school” score understated by up to 2 percentage points. A minor observation, maybe, but worth considering. I see that in recent years Middlesex and St. Andrews have also become nominating schools to the Morehead program, so it is possible their stats would need tweaking as well to make their “top school” score comparable to the larger schools. The larger schools would be unaffected given their large denominators. Of course, any allowance for Morehead Scholars begs the question about other prestigious scholarship programs that might affect numbers, but the Morehead is the only one I am aware of at the top boarding schools.
Good point, Groton Alum. Unfortunately, I can’t make adjustments for such scholarships. Two members of my class at L’ville many years ago went to UNC on a Morehead and both of them would have been admitted (or actually were, I suppose) to HYPMS quality schools. There are two problems to taking the Morehead data into account. First of all, I have to go look it up and then incorporate it, and this project has been very time consuming as is. Second, it opens the door to all sorts of other adjustments many of which I can’t even begin to adjust for. What do I do with the student who was admitted to Harvard but accepts a full scholarship to some school which doesn’t rank as highly for the purposes of this website? I’m sure there are a number of such students around, and I have no access to the relevant data there.
Remember, even though numbers on this website look very definitive, they really need to always be viewed as approximations. They do move somewhat from year to year. Also, for certain schools that provide incomplete data, I’m forced to do some estimation. So, I wouldn’t worry too much about 2 percentage point differences.
I think you ought to include The Westminster Schools in Atlanta, GA in your analysis.
Certainly a school worth including. I did find their Class of 2010 matriculations in usable format, so when I eventually get around to updating, I will add it.
Here is UWC-USA’s 2008, 2009 and 2010 matriculation stats (since you only have one year of data).
2010 http://www.uwc-usa.org/ftpimages/423/misc/misc_87713.pdf Page 11
2009 http://www.uwc-usa.org/ftpimages/423/download/President's%20Report%202009.pdf Page 15
2008 http://www.uwc-usa.org/ftpimages/423/download/2008%20Presidents%20Report.pdf Page 10
Does anyone here have St. Mark’s School’s data? (the boarding school in MA)
Thanks!!!
Is this site still active? If so are you updating the stats with 2010 data, which has been published by this time? Also, could you add the most referenced Ivies+MS? Another comment I have is that I think you have added too many LACs as selective colleges. Only maybe the top 5 LACs can be compared with the top 25 universities in terms of selectivity or popularity IMO.
Site is still active. Note the “most recently updated dates on each page”. I’ve updated NYC schools and intend to update more, but my time has been limited. I am not going to add the Ivy+MS stat that PrepReview seems to favor. See the home page for my reasons. As far as the LACs school, most comments I’ve received seem to go the other way than yours, and that I should actually be including more of the LACs than I am doing in the Top and Strong school statistics. There are several technical reasons that support including more rather than fewer, but I’m intending to keep things the same. As I freely admit, the measurements I’ve chosen are hardly perfect, but hopefully they provide some value to users. Thanks for your input.
Does anyone have UWC Pearson College Stats?
how possible is it 2 hv incomplete results?
Could you be more specific?
wondering if the PG’s are included in these stats? I would assume they are since they are part of each graduating class. Doesn’t that kind of skew the results a bit since a large percentage of PG’s are recruitable level athletes – thats why they are there for the most part. Also, many of them only attend the school for that one year. Would be interesting to see the stats if you took out all PG’s.
I agree it would be interesting, but since that’s not data I have access to, I really can’t do anything about it. Also note that day schools rarely have PGs.
I just wanted to make sure you had received the Columbis Grammer (CGPS) 5-year stats I received from the school and forwarded to you. We were puzzled because its looks like the 5-year numbers are much less impressive than the 2010 data – HYPMS comes to 3.8% vs the 8.9% on your site. I wonder whether 2010 was just a home run year for CGPS or whether someone may have fed you incorrect or incomplete numbers. For example, your data implies 10 kids to HYPMS in 2010, where the data sent directly from the headmaster’s office indicates a TOTAL of 18 kids to HYPMS over 5 years (2006-10)! So if 2010 was actually correct, it seems to have been an aberration from CGPS’s longer-term results. Thanks for taking a look and updating when you get a chance.
The 2010 information I received was actually a complete listing of the entire class. Upon first glance, I haven’t noticed any inconsistencies, though I’ll look closer. For now, I’m assuming 2010 was a home run year. Are you sure you provided 5-year rather than 4-year data? Seems like to few students for 5-year data and other info you sent suggests they maintain data as pairs of years.
Thanks for looking at this. The information came right from the headmaster’s office, and is labeled 2006-10 matriculation, so I assume its accurate. Assuming the 2010 info. is correct, the matriculation results from the prior 3-4 years are significantly worse, and the 5-year data seems to paint a very different picture than the 2010 data alone (I suppose that’s why you use 5-year data anyway).
I have heard many people say that they believe that K-8 schools, ie, Allen-Stevenson, Buckley, St. Bernards, St. Davids, provide a better lower school education than the lower schools of the top ranked high schools. So, it would be interesting to know which NYC K-8s had the best matriculation into these top ranked high schools. Would you have a way to obtain that data?
It would also be interesting to know if the grads of K-8s that matriculate into the top high schools have an advantage over the survivors (K-12 students) of the top ranked schools as measured by matriculation into the top universities.
I applaud your work.
Both interesting questions. Unfortunately, I really don’t have access to adequate data to provide any meaningful answers to them.
Dude, you stats on CGPS in NYC are TOTALLY MISLEADING!!! My younger brother graduated two years ago and he was one of ONLY TWO PEOPLE in the ENTIRE CLASS to matriculate at HYPMS. He also told me the class ahead of him had similar poor results. Your Matric Top Index completely overrates the school and it’s placement. I would think you might want to include a few years (rather than only one) if you want the results to have any real meaning.
Please read the posts above. Until recently I only had access to information for the class of 2010, but have now received several years of information which supports your comment. I will be updating CGPS based on that information soon.
Hey, I noticed that Loomis Chaffee’s data is now outdated. There is info regarding the class of 2010 matriculations. The link is http://www.loomischaffee.org/uploaded/College_Office_files/2010_college_profile.pdf
Is this site dormant?
Not dormant, but I simply haven’t had the time to do more updating. When I updated the NYC information I noticed that results usually didn’t change all that much from one year to the next, though.
Yes, you are right. The updated results wouldn’t change significantly. Still, I believe that everyone would like to see updated information and would appreciate your time and effort.
New (2010 matriculation) Georgetown Prep Stats:
Georgetown University (6)
Miami University, Oxford (6)
Elon University (4)
University of Maryland, College Park (4)
University of Notre Dame (4)
University of Virginia (4)
Davidson College (3)
Clemson University (3)
College of the Holy Cross (3)
Duke University (3)
University of Denver (3)
Villanova University (3)
Wake Forest University (3)
Washington and Lee University (3)
Boston College (2)
Brown University (2)
Princeton University (2)
Southern Methodist University (2)
Stanford University (2)
University of Dayton (2)
University of Michigan (2)
University of Pennsylvania (2)
University of Wisconsin, Madison (2)
Arizona State University (1)
Bates College (1)
Bryant University (1)
Colby College (1)
College of Charleston (1)
Columbia University (1)
Cornell University (2)
Emory University (1)
Fairfield University (1)
Lafayette College (1)
Loyola College in Maryland (1)
Marquette University (1)
New York University (1)
North Carolina State University (1)
Northeastern University (1)
Rhode Island School of Design (1)
Saint Anselm College (1)
Saint Joseph’s University (1)
Syracuse University (1)
The Catholic University of America (1)
The George Washington University (1)
Tufts University (1)
Tulane University (1)
U.S. Coast Guard Academy (1)
U.S. Merchant Marine Academy (1)
U.S. Naval Academy (1)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1)
University of North Carolina at Wilmington (1)
Vanderbilt University (1)
Virginia Polytechnic Institute (1)
Above stats from : http://www.gprep.org/contentPage.aspx?pageId=51997§ionId=1256
Marymount School in NYC finally put its 5-year matriculation data (2006-2010) on their website. This is long overdue and many of us who are applying for girls and hear back later this week (decisions mailed out in 4 days) would appreciate it if you could add Marymount to the NYC schools list as soon as possible. My friends and I with girls are all curious how Marymount compares to CSH (Convent of the Sacred Heart) and NBS (Nightingale-Bamford). Here’s the link: http://marymountnyc.org/academics/college-counseling . Thank you!!!
By the way, Marymount was NEVER on your list, so its not a question of updating the numbers (which don’t change much year-to-year when using 5-year totals) but of actually adding a NEW school. Thanks again for updating given notification date in NYC is 2/10 and contracts are due 2/17 at 12pm. You have done an amazing job keeping this site going.
I’ll add Marymount within the next few days. Thanks for bringing the information to my attention.
Would really be grateful if you’d rate the following three schools based on matric. stats from the Houston area: St. John’s School, the Kinkaid School, and Duchesne Academy of the Sacred Heart.
Also please one public high school: Carnegie Vanguard High School.
TIA if you are willing to help.
Sorry, I haven’t even been able to update the national boarding schools yet, so I’m not going to be adding new day schools in Houston at this time. As far as the public school goes, I’ll never be able to add public schools around the country due to lack of data and time.
Thank you for getting back to me. The two Houston schools I mentioned Kinkaid and St. John’s are considered locally as the two academically “best” and I wondered if their matriculation stats mirrored what is said about them. Thank you.
Since I fully describe my methodology on this website, you can do the calculations yourself if you’re curious. The MATRIC indices may be a little more difficult to do if you’re not used to that sort of thing, but the other numbers are very straight forward to derive.
Thank you. I am pretty horrible when it comes to math. I sent you a private email.
Why isn’t Lycée Français de New York included? It shows matriculations good enough for your NYC Day School List, see: http://www.lfny.org/en/index.php/academics_activities/college_counseling/matriculation/
It didn’t seem fair to include Lycée Français de New York because of the large number of matriculants to foreign schools that aren’t included in my methodology. As a result, the school’s statistics would be diluted by those non-US matriculants.
Why not just do the stats on Lycee Students who go to US schools or US, Canada and UK (maybe with an asterisk). Many sites ignore Lycee, I suppose for the reasons you mention. But, it would be nice to see them in the lists — I understand the issue though.
I am the parent of a pre-school/Kindergarden applicant (different schools have different cutoffs). We are considering Lycee and feel strange that it is never mentioned.
Many of the students who attend outside of the US go to McGill which I do include in my analysis, so the dilution shouldn’t be too bad. I’ll consider adding them with the asterisk that you suggest. If I do that, I suppose I’ll have to look into seeing if I can obtain data for UNIS, also.
I actually attende dthe French Lycee. You s hould not however include McGill: admissions to McGill from any french school in the US is a joke as they accept almost anyone with a baccaluareate.
As ione example, the LFNY had 7 students TOTAL to the entire ivy but 20 to mcGill alone. Same for Lycee Rochambeau, FAIS and all the lycee. Getting into McGill from teh Lyceee is like attending a local state school.
At FAIS for example, which ranks slightly higher than LFNY, 10 and 7 students were accepted out of a class slightly larger than 20….
But then isn’t that a big value of going to LFNY? If attending LFNY give one an advantage (I’m taking your word for it) in admission to an excellent school like McGill, isn’t that something good to know?
Well I attended the LFNY before Collegiate an dthere is a reason it is never mentioned.
First it is like comparing apples and oranges.
Second itis an international school and neither its SAT scores nor placement at Ivies is particular remarkable. As an example, the average SAT at Collegaite was 2250 last year, and closer to 1900 at LFNY. My year , which was a while back 25 out of 45 kids in my collegiate class went ivy including 6 to Harvard, at LFNY there were 5 out of 100 , 55% vs 5%….
One is a strong French lycee, the other (and Dalton, Chapin etc) are among the best schools globally.
not really, just about ANYONE from an American school who is semi-literate (i am joking now, I mean anyone witha b plus/a minus average) can get into McGill for the simple reason that they CHARGE Americans 3 times more tuition than canadian nationals.
I don’t know about you but I am planning to have kids I hope in the next few years and although I would spend $$ for a prep school so that my children could receive a great education, I
1) dont think the LFNY compares in any way to top prep schools ( I attended LFNY until 9th grade then Collegiate and i think LFNY todayis a fine school, mind you) and
2) I’d like them not to end up in Montreal for God’s sakes attending a CANADIAN university because they couldn’t get into an ivy league or comparable institution, which is why most fo the kids from french schools in the states attend McGill. Unless they are on crack, no one getting into Yale or MIT or Stanford chooses McGill., although it is a very fine school, no doubt. So is Krakov State in the Ukraine and the American University in beirut–that’s not what prep schools are supposed to “prep” you for, lol
It would be great to see the same info for public high schools in and around the NYC area (i.e. Scarsdale, etc.)
Sorry, simply not going to happen. First of all, most of them don’t release appropriate statistics. Second of all, I have to draw the line somewhere due to my own time limitations. Now, if you were to make it worth my time…
Where did you obtain the statistics for St. Alban’s school?
For St. Alban’s school, I used an amalgammation of two different lists that I found somewhat hidden on the school’s website, plus some other data on that same site. I don’t know if the lists are still there.
Hi — I’d like to see you add the matriculation statistics for Pomfret School and Suffield Academy to your boarding school list. Thanks.
I have the matriculation data for Pomfret School and Suffield Academy that I can send to you in .pdf files (it was taken from the Spring 2010 bulletins for each school). Thanks.
I received that information and will add those schools as time allows.
Will you send me this list too? I have been searching for their matriculation but haven’t found any.
NVM… found it I think…http://www.myvirtualpaper.com/doc/suffield-academy-magazine/suffield-magazine-spring-2010/2010062101/3.html#8
Your rankings don’t take into account that some private schools (e.g., St. Anne’s in NYC, Georgetown Day School in DC) have a strong arts focus, so a disproportionate number of their students apply to the likes of The Juilliard School, USC’s School of Cinematic Arts, NYU’s film school, the Rhode Island School of Design, and so on.
It’s harder to get into some of these ultra-selective, specialized programs than into HYPMS! Consider USC’s School of Cinematic Arts, for instance: their acceptance rate to the undergraduate screenwriting program is reportedly under 3% — around 900 applicants for 20-odd spots every year. Or take Juilliard, where the accepance rate is reportedly under 8%.
It would be great to see your rankings incorporate matriculations in these ultra-selective, specialized programs!
Certainly there are such specialty schools like the ones you cite that are extremely difficult to get into. And if a student is interested in one of those areas of study, such information should be incorporated into one’s selection process of schools. Unfortunately, I can’t do everything. I developed the metrics that you see here to assist students (and their parents) with the school selection process, but I am fully aware that they can not fully capture all possible information.
http://www.branson.org/collegecounseling Branson School in Calif (day school)
http://www.headroyce.org/page.cfm?p=2265 Head-Royce in Calif (day school)
http://www.sfuhs.org/uploaded/documents/About_UHS/UHS_School_Profile_2010-2011.pdf San Francisco University High in Calif (day school)
They’re on par with Harvard-Westlake and other CA schools you listed on the website.
Please consider analyzing their stats if time allows.
Thank you!
Thanks for pointing them out to me. A quick look at the schools’ statistics show that they are indeed strong.
Could you add Berkshire school to your list? Here’s a link to their recent matriculation stats: http://www.berkshireschool.org/page.cfm?p=1087
Dear Statmaster:
One of the unknown elements of this analysis is the legacy, relationship or donation effects of individual college applicants contained within these school statistics. Have you seen any thoughtfu analysis which seeks to correct for these effects? Do you have any specific data or qualitative evidence on this issue, or otherwise any view on the scope of these effects on either individual schools, or any particular category of schools? Do you believe that these effects are more pronounced among the New York City day schools than other day schools or than the boarding schools?
Arthur,
I certainly agree that all of those elements, and many more, are used by colleges in determining their admissions decisions. To answer your questions in order:
1) I have not seen any thoughtful analysis to correct for the effect of any these particular elements. I’ve seen an occasional discussion as to ways that might be done, but nothing which I thought was even near worthwhile to pursue. The problem, as I’m sure you realize, is the lack of meaningful data.
2) I don’t have any specific data or qualititative evidence which would shed any light on this issue.
3) Since I live in NYC, I’ve thought a little about the differences between NYC schools, boarding schools and day schools in other cities. When comparing NYC schools to day schools in other cities, there are some obvious factors which might come into play. I hesitate to draw any hard conclusions and state them here due to the lack of data, though.
Sorry I can’t be of more help here. Many people have voiced your concerns before, but I don’t think there’s any great way around the lack of data.
Dear Statmaster:
Intuitively, I would suspect that these effects on college admissions have a greater influence on the numbers among the New York City day schools, than the boarding schools. Would you agree?
Arthur,
Very tough to say. There are some effects which play out both ways, so I hesitate to draw any conclusions without meaningful data to analyze.
Next time you redo the stats, it would be interesting to see info on National Merit Semifinalists in the graduating classes as it is a fairly good indicator of how many truly bright kids each school has. For example, Phillips Andover’s most recent NM Semifinalist numbers came in at about 10% of the graduating class, and Hunter’s numbers were in the 35% range.
Certainly would be interesting to see. I know that SAM2 on the dcurbanmom.com site has done some analysis in that area. You might want to check that out.
But, isn’t NMSF just a question of doing well on the PSATs? So, it should correlate fairly closely with average SAT scores. Also, please be careful to avoid the mistake of thinking that success on standardized testing shows true intelllect. There’s a reasonable correlation, of course, but standardized tests hardley tell the whole story of intelligence.
There is a good reason for that: the top 16 or 20 boardings chools are grouped together by the College Board as if they were a state! So actually over half of Andover, Exter etc students would receive commendation or semifinalist stanidngs, but teh college board doesn’t want anyone to know, as if it were a secret how proivileeged or smart these kids are….
Thats why private day schools do so much better on NMSQT distinction: the cut off for the 16 boarding schools is preposterously high.
Christopher, I don’t understand your comment. Are you talking about National Merit awards? If so, I think you might be mistaken. My understanding is that NMSF and other similar awards are based on how a particular student’s score stacks up against a statewide calculation. So for example, each state has a particular number that a student must reach to be declared a NMSF. Any student who scores that number or higher will be declared a NMSF. If 100% of an Andover or Exeter class scored above that threshold, then all 100% of them would be declared NMSFs. I’ve reviewed about 5 or so years of data for those schools, and they seem to average about 8-9% NMSF per class.
I do think you’re correct though that many top schools like that manage to get close to half the class into the “Commended” category, which has a lower cut-off.
I hope that helps.
@Sam2
For all boarding schools, there is a strange conglomeration of state cut-offs to ensure that NMSF reports are not overly inflated at these schools. The rule is that the collegeboard takes the group of states where a particular boarding school receives many students and then takes the highest cut-off in that group of states and declares it the boarding school region’s cutoff. I believe generally they use MD or MA for NE boarding schools.
That’s very interesting. Is that process described by NM anywhere? I have never heard anything like that. I know that NM uses whatever the highest state score is as the cutoff for all of DC. You seem to be describing something similar for boarding schools. Any further information appreciated.
I think that I can confirm what Christopher says. My son was at Phillips Andover in 2008 when he took his PSAT. The cutoff score for PA was 218 (ten to fifteen points more than for Mass or NY state). So a kid going to a day school in either MA or NY would have qualified for the semi round with a score lower by as much as 5 or 8 percent. You can call the organization that does the PSAT (they have contact numbers on the web site). They will tell you that prep (boarding) schools in New England are grouped into their own district and are not considered as belonging to the state of domicile. The argument being that most students are not resident in that state.
Also, there is very little preparation or buildup in these schools for the PSAT.
That’s really interesting. I’ve done some research now, and I see various references to the NMSF cutoff for certain boarding schools being set according to some calculation that accounts for where the majority of the school’s students come from. I could easily imagine a simple formula that does something like averaging the cutoff scores of the three states where most of its students come from, and maybe also averaging in the cutoff score for a boarding school’s own state.
I could not find any info on what formula the NMSF people use. If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate hearing it. Thanks.
It is not an average of cutoff scores over a set of states. For one thing that would mean that the cut off for these boarding schools would actually be lower than some states! In fact, the cutoff is actually the highest cutoff in that particular PSAT.
It seems that it has more to do with the performance of the students. Maybe to ensure that the final list is not dominated by prep schools.
I don’t see why it would be any problem for some boarding school students to face some sort of averaged cutoff that is lower than their home states. In the same way, it wouldn’t seem to be a problem for other boarding school students to face a cutoff higher than their home state. It would just create an even playing field for all the students at that particular boarding school.
I’d be willing to believe that the NMSF people just use the highest state score for boarding schools (much like they do for DC), but that seems unlikely because otherwise their materials would just say that. It seems more likely they are averaging scores from several states.
I don’t buy the idea that NM is somehow gaming the system to block boarding schools from doing well on the tests. Several magnet schools have NMSF numbers in the 30% of class range. The top boarding schools seem to do about as well on NMSF %s as the top private schools in many states, which makes sense to me.
I suppose that if the boarding school cutoffs are some average of highly-represented states (like I suspect), that’s a little bit “gaming the system” insofar as the average makes it a little harder for boarding students from states with low cutoffs to dominate their states. But I don’t see any reason to think NM is creating a cutoff even higher than the highest states.
But if you (or anyone) can find some indication online of how it’s done, I’m happy to revise my skepticism. Any info appreciated.
BTW, in reading my post, I realize I was not clear about the significance of this comment: “Several magnet schools have NMSF numbers in the 30% of class range.” My point is that the NM people don’t seem shy about letting some magnet schools rack up huge numbers of NMSFs, so I don’t see why they’d try to suppress private boarding schools to significantly lower levels.
snarayan, your numbers are wrong. Cut off in 2008 was Mass 223, NY 219, Boarding schools 223. Typically, the NE Boarding school cut off has been set at whatever the highest state score cut off; usually that is the score of DC or Massachusetts. FWIW, I’ve never seen a 10-15 point gap between boarding school cut off and Mass or NY.
anon:
You are right. I was quoting from a conversation that I had at the time my son took the test in Oct 2008 and clearly my memory had it that the boarding school cutoff was several points over the NY State cut-off because we live in NY and my son was at Andover in Mass.
For the sake of accuracy I have done some further research on the national merit website.
Following is the link to the cutoff scores for the last three years.http://www.collegeplanningsimplified.com/NationalMerit.html.
This proves your statement that the boarding school cutoff is indeed the highest of the state cutoffs.
Following is the link to the national merit program website which states the methodology for the cutoffs.
http://www.nationalmerit.org/student_guide.pdf
Page 6 states the rules for establishing the cut-offs.
I am glad that my vague recollection is now clarified.
Good find, snarayan. Many thanks. The first link is interesting because it almost looks as if the special scoring unit for boarding schools did not start until 2010.
I have had 3 children attend Exeter and 2 of them did’t bother taking the PSAT. Kids at Exeter are too busy studying and do not obsess about the SAT never mind the PSAT.My “smartest” kid went to an engineering LAC in southern california. The other two slackers are at HYPSM.BTW the engineering school in Cali nobody has ever heard of is far more rigorous than any of the top 5 schools.
Could you analyze Harker School. Its a top school in California and this year produced two Intel Finalists. They graduate about 170 students per year with a mean 2120 SAT score and from 2008-2010 had students admitted (no matriculation stats listed) to Harvard (16), Yale (10) Stanford (27), Princeton (35).
Regards,
Sorry, I can’t do anything without a full stat list.
I have been a great admirer of Harker School albiet from a distance here in New York. They seem to attract the some of the brightest science and math high school students. The matriculation stats bear that out. The grads seem to head to the top engineering institutions such as UC Berkeley, Stanford. But they do not stand out as a class when comparing stats for the top 10 schools with day schools here in NY State such as Rye Country Day and Brunswick which have available stats.
The class of 2010:
Proportion admitted to Ivies +SM: Harker 33/166 RCDS 19/99 Brunswick 16/about 85?
Dear Statmaster,
When you have time would you mind updating the Loomis Chaffee school matriculation list ? You can find it’s newest matriculation stats here : http://www.loomischaffee.org/page.cfm?p=1077
Thanks a ton,
I’m now working on adding as many updates as I can over the next few weeks.
Great, thanks a bunch because I saw that there was quite a difference in that years matriculation stats compared to its previous years.
Just heard from a Hunter administrator that 43% of the class of 2011 was admitted to an Ivy. Waiting to see the stats, but if the data backs it up – wow.
Can you please ascertain whether a particular ivy predominated ? Cornell has been carefully picking its spots so as to maximize yield. For example last year they offered many more spots than previously at good city and subarban public schools and held back from selective private and boarding schools. I think that they may have done this again. They achieve a much higher matriculation rate when dealing with schools such as Hunter, Stuyvesant because there are fewer cross-admits (probably because these are not usually legacy applicants).
Broader acceptances across the ivys at H, with an especially high number of early action admits particularly at Yale. Senior class was very impressive with avg. SAT reported as 2270. Also perhaps some impact from months of Kagan/Hunter publicity.
Cornell is still an Ivy? Lol
Thank you for your updating!
More to come as soon as possible.
StatMaster,
I think that 2011 is an unusually heavy cross-admit session listening to anecdotes from friends. Many of the Ivy admits at RCDS have been admitted to two or more Ivies, one female to six ivies. There is a good reason to believe that Ivies have preferred females with strong math scores and passions. Almost every such candidate has secured two to three Ivies.
I am planning to study how the cross-admit situation is resolved. One idea is to look at how deep the schools dip into their waiting lists. The reason being that you only go to the waiting list after your first list is exhausted. So if Harvard advanced a thousand more offers than the expected class size and took 100 from the waitlist, it means that 1100 were cross-admits. Summing up such numbers across schools of similar standing (such as Ivy or Ivy+SM), one can find the total cross-admits. Cross-admits are usually the most desirable candidates because usually there will be no legacies, athletes, development candidates amongst them. There is allso more confidence in the selection since more than one committee has preferred them.
I am also finding very interesting evidence that MIT is reaching deep down the applicant pool so as to balance the class by sex, diversity etc. So while it may be very difficult for some candidates with tremendous science and engineering skills to make it, others who are probably advantaged by possessing certain other attributes such as gender may make it. Thus it may mean that an engineering school such as SEAS at Columbia may actually have a higher-skilled class because the school does not ‘design’ the incoming class by gender, race etc. I have been analysing the information available on the MIT and Columbia web sites and will be glad to hear from anyone who has more information.
Thanks
I promise you that SEAS at Columbia gives a HUGE advantage to females and minorities to round out their classes. MIT and Caltech do as well but not nearly to the same extent as SEAS at places like Columbia and a lesser extent PENN SEAS.
Is there any hope for gaining admission to any of the top private day schools for a student relocating to NYC from out of state? The student is in 8th grade now (tests @ top 5% of kids in standardized tests in CA) and will be applying for 9th grade admission. Any tips would be appreciated.
http://issuu.com/theharkerschool/docs/hq-summer-2010
On page 10, there’s Harker School’s Class of 2010 matriculation. Finally!
Thanks, Jess. It would be great if you could find the Class of 2009 since I like to have multiple classes included to smooth out any particularly extreme results from a class.
The media it’s in is tough to work with, but I’ll manage somehow.
Hi, I saw that you had the stats for UWC- USA. I was wondering if you could do the same for UWC- Canada when you have time. Here’s the link for the matriculation stats : http://www.pearsoncollege.ca/alumni_universities
Thanks a bunch!
Hi,
I was curious why Bronx Science was your only NYC public high school listed? I would assume Stuyvesant and Brooklyn Tech have high emission rates?
First, Hunter is also listed. For Stuyvesant, read the entry on the “Random Musings” page for some listed. I’d guess Brooklyn Tech’s matriculation rates are good, but they weren’t available. I can only work with the data that I have.
Brunswick School in Greenwich, CT should be up there
Hunter 2011: http://www.hunterpta.org/sites/default/files/documents/HCHS-2011-College-List.pdf
Berkshire is increasingly rising…..Berkshire is a school to watch.-recently renovated buildings, rigorous academics. Berkshire in Sheffield Mass. – an impressive college matriculation.
Cate School’s Class of 2011 matriculation list – http://www.cate.org/news/detail/?id=2079
I go to Suffield Academy.. I agree with your stats on us, however I would like it if you post the Berkshire School Stats for me… Its in Sheffield,MA.
I need a Suffield vs. Berkshire thread going so i need stats ASAP.
Thanks so much,
Adam
Sorry, but I have not been able to obtain usable Berkshire stats.
Dear Statmaster:
I have noticed that a certain school has increased it’s class size by about 25%. Based upon the inverse correlation between class size and college placement success, I would assume that this school would see a significant decline in placement statistics. Is this your experience? What examples can you give of schools that have altered the size of their classes, and the associated statistical changes?
Arthur
Arthur,
Sorry, I don’t have any specific data regarding the situation you discuss. Intuitively, I would expect a decline in college placement statistics but not to the extent a simple dilution by 25% would suggest. Sorry I can’t be of more help.
Please add Northfield Mount Hermon to the list of schools.
I’d like to, but they’ve never made usable data publicly available.
Hi, can anyone tell me what’s the difference between all girls schools:
http://www.cshnyc.org
and
http://marymountnyc.org
I have looked at both websites extensively and while both are all girls schools I have been trying to find matriculation data.
Thanks so much, FB
Matriculation information is listed for both schools on the NYC page on this website.
Would it be possible to see statistics and comparisons for Atlanta? We’re moving from out-of-state and hear a lot about Westminster; I just don’t know if reality matches perception. We hear a lot about Pace and Lovett, too (Woodward will be too far to drive).
Many thanks.
Not really something that I have time to do. I’m not even sure if information is available for those schools. Sorry I can’t be more helpful.
Could you please add HYMPS stats to the Top 25? Thank you.
When will you be updating the nyc schools’ 2011 matriculation data?
Thanks
I agree, the NYC independent schools seem to have updated their 2011 data, and it would be great to have this data in hand before the current admission season ends.
I simply don’t have the time to do an update (I do have a full-time job, after all). I note that these statistics do not change very significantly from year to year.
Hi, our son is applying to both U.S. boarding schools & one in Canada, Ridley College. If anyone here is familiar with the personality or culture of Ridley, and how rigorous it is academically, we’d be grateful to hear your thoughts.
I would like to ask why The Hill School is not listed in this website? And if The Hill School is in your list how would you rank it and what is its statistics?
Hill doesn’t provide any data on their website and, in fact, specifically denounces statistical compilations like the ones on this website. It would be presumptuous of me to make any guess as to its matriculation results without seeing any actual statistics.